The Recipe For SEO Success Show

The Recipe for SEO Success podcast helps you expand your understanding of all things Search Engine Optimisation and learn from experts you can trust. Listen to award winning SEO copywriting and SEO Consultant Kate Toon chat with her expert guests about all things Google including: - Optimisation tips and techniques - The latest SEO news and updates - Real life SEO case studies and critiques - Focus on different aspects of SEO from link building and local to ecommerce and engagement.
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May 27, 2020

When it comes to running your own business we have to wear so many different berets.

We have to be accountants, project managers, salespeople, and digital marketers.

And it’s a tough gig.

So often I see small business owners struggling to master digital marketing, not sure where to put their attention. Not sure what is going to move the needle.

Floundering, wasting money, getting ripped off, missing the basics.

So today I’m chatting with Louisa Dahl from Interactive Minds about Digital Marketing and we’re going to share the top mistake we see every day and how to avoid them.


Tune in to learn:

  • Why metrics matter
  • Why you need to know your peeps
  • How a lack of business confidence could be affecting your digital marketing
  • Why knowing your numbers is vital
  • Why relationships count
  • How to understand yourself and your brand
  • How to market yourself without arrogance


May 13, 2020

In my Reality SEO episodes, I like to focus on real humans grappling with the Google beast.

Yes, I get lots of marketing professionals, copywriters, and web developers passing through my slippery funnel of courses and resources, but I also get noobs.

Or those who, while they may know how to run a successful business, have studiously avoided dealing with SEO.

This week I’m talking to Anu Sawhney, a Recipe course graduate and member of my mentoring community, the Digital Masterchefs.

Anu runs a successful online jewellery store called Bidiliia, and today we’re going to chat through challenges of Shopify SEO, writing killer eCommerce product descriptions, brand building, and how to make customers feel loved.

Apr 29, 2020

In my Reality SEO series, I interview REAL LIFE HUMANS who’ve changed their digital marketing for good and used simple techniques to transform their business and brand

These shorter episodes will include practical DOABLE advice and tips from people just like you.

This week we’re talking to Marko Wittich, who runs a Shopify website for his business Campfire Treats. I’ll admit it, Marco is one of my star students, he put so much work into the course, turned up to every coaching call and asked oodles of questions.

And guess what? It paid off.

Get ready to be blown away by his amazing results.


Apr 15, 2020

One of the hardest things about DIY SEO is affording all the tools.

We have the big three software Moz, Ahrefs, and SEMrush, and now oddles of up and coming brands.

On top of that, there are tools for keyword researching desktop tools like Screaming Frog and so many more. And it all adds up, especially if you’re a solo business person.

But what if there was a way to do DIY SEO without spending all that cash.

Today we’re talking about how to do your SEO without the fancy tools.

Tune in to learn:

We will look at how to use the browser and the built-in dev tools to get some SEO work done:

  • Do we need fancy tools
  • What are his top free tools
  • How do we test speed without a fancy tool
  • How do we test crawlability
  • How to we check ranking and keyword data
  • How do we check backlinks


Apr 1, 2020

Webinars. I've done a few before, but I must admit I've never quite been 100% sure if they work.

Are they the secret to wonderful lead generation or are they a little bit worn out and not working quite as well as they used to?

Well, today I'm honoured to have Omar's Zenhom from WebinarNinja on the show, to give us the lowdown on webinars for beginners, and also some tips for the more advanced amongst us.

Tune in to learn:

  • How to get started with your first webinar.
  • How to use webinars to build your email list
  • Why webinars are the #1 sales conversion tool for any product
  • How to market your webinar for free- How to use webinars as a product to sell your audience
  • How to use webinars as a customer retention tool
    Avoiding rookie mistakes
  • Different and new ways to do a webinar to appeal to different audiences
  • Tips for the non-tech
Mar 17, 2020

Today I’m talking with Jono Alderson. Jono is a digital strategist at Yoast and also a bit of a wise old sage in the world of SEO, he’s not actually that old, but he has an air of Doctor who about him if you ask me.

I saw him present at Yoastcon last year and his talk about the future of the internet and Google searches was, without doubt, my favourite speech at any conference I’ve ever been too. High praise right?

So today on the podcast I wanted to ask Jono a big question. We’re all working on our websites, right? Some DIY, some splashing big bucks, the platforms are working to improve, the plugins, the browsers, the search engine.

So what actually happens when all our websites are fixed? What will we do then?

In this episode well think about the future… and what it means for the average Joe or Johanna.

Mar 3, 2020

Featured snippets, some love them, some hate them.

For some, they’re a chance to grab position zero and end up at the tipperty top of the Google results even when competing with the big boys.

For others, they’re Google scraping our content and denying us click-throughs.

Today we’ll talk through what Featured Snippets are, the different formats, and what tactics you need to use to nab them, and whether they really are good for branding, click through and conversion.


Tune in to learn:

  • What are featured snippets
  • Types of snippets (old and new)
  • What triggers Google to show a featured snippet
  • Benefits beyond ‘position zero’
  • How being featured relates to traffic and click-through
  • Why voice search is important
  • How to get there, and make it ‘work’ for you


Feb 18, 2020

People say that everyone has one good book in them.
Can we also say this of ecourses? Can anyone turn the raging tsunami of knowledge in their head into a loving pool of learning and resources?

Having created oodles of online courses myself, it’s a question I get asked a lot. Along with, what makes a successful course? How much support do I need to give? How do I price it? What software should I use, and so much more.

So today we’re straying from the SEO path, onto the road of Digital Marketing and talking all about creating ecourses.

Tune in to learn:

  • How to leverage your existing content
  • How to make your content easy to consume
  • Why getting the damn thing “online” is the hardest part of
  • launching your online course
  • What’s the “right” opt-in for your course
  • Live launch vs evergreen course
  • How much support your course needs to give
  • How to price your course
  • Why perfection isn’t necessary but basic requirements must be met
Feb 4, 2020

In my Reality SEO series, I interview REAL LIFE HUMANS who’ve changed their digital marketing for good and used simple techniques to transform their business and brand.

These shorter episodes will include practical DOABLE advice and tips from people just like you.

Find out why Amy Annetts, already a successful business marketer, decided she had to learn SEO, what were her biggest learnings and her two top tips for small businesses. 

Jan 21, 2020

In my Reality SEO series, I interview REAL LIFE HUMANS who’ve changed their digital marketing for good and used simple techniques to transform their business and brand.

These shorter episodes will include practical DOABLE advice and tips from people just like you.

Kate Toon chats with Belinda Austin Marketing manager of 6ft6 wines about how to build a brilliant brand with SEO. 

Jan 13, 2020

Today I’ve dusted off my crystal ball and I’m sharing my predictions for how the digital will develop in 2020,

What’s going to happen in the world of Google?

What should you as business owners, bloggers, entrepreneurs, word press developers, copywriters and marketeers be concentrating on?

Which platforms should we be using?

What are the big trends?

And what can we PLEASE ignore!

I'll also explain what I'm focusing my efforts on for my six, or is it seven, websites in 2020.

Tune in to learn:

  • Why position zero matters
  • What BERT means for user optimisation
  • How EAT is going to impact your business
  • How to have a bold brand that stands for something
  • Why your UX can't SUX
  • Why you need to get your bots ready
  • How video is going to change your business life

And my biggest overarching trend for 2020... #showthechaos

Nov 28, 2019

In this episode, Kate Toon explains what's coming up in the newly revamped Recipe for SEO Success podcast
Series 2 is going to be bigger, better and a little more regular.

Sep 17, 2019

Tune in to learn:

  • What led Mathew to seeking an SEO agency for help
  • What you should have set up before contacting an agency for SEO assistance
  • The key things to look for when choosing an SEO agency
  • How important is it for you as a customer to know SEO terminology
  • “Red flag jargon” you should look out for
  • How you can participate in the ongoing process
  • The best way to know your money is being spent well
  • Alternate models: What they are and the benefits of each
Jun 25, 2019

International SEO is the process of optimising your website so that search engines can easily identify which countries you want to target and which languages you use for business.

Most of us struggle with getting to rank locally, so do we really need to care about international SEO?

Well if a good share of your website visitors are coming from a different country to where you’re located then it might be the right time to think global.

In this episode I’ll be chatting with Nitin Manchanda - an International SEO expert, about everything we need to know to get our global SEO in tip top condition.

Tune in to learn:

  • When should you worry about international SEO.
  • How to structure your site for International SEO best practice.
  • What is Geotargeting and how should you be using it.
  • What to look out for when formatting your site for a country.
  • Which signals Google uses to understand the countries you’re targeting.
  • The importance of backlinks on international SEO.
  • Tips on how to win links in other countries.
  • How to handle local search engines like Yandex in Russia and Baidu in China.
  • Tips on international SEO for e-commerce businesses.
  • What are the biggest mistakes businesses make with International SEO.
  • The best ways to measure your international SEO success.
Jun 18, 2019

I was lucky enough to present at Yoastcon in the Netherlands, so thought I’d do a special live episode interviewing all the smart people there and asking them their number one Digital Marketing tip for this year

Many of these awesome humans will also appear on a future episodes of the podcast so stay Tooned for those episodes too.

Tune in to learn:

  • What is DSA?
  • How to find out what's holding your customers back
  • What's the most important aspect of branding?
  • What are progressive web apps?
  • How digital marketing is converging.
  • Why you need to get rid of some of your pages
  • Why you need to take a step back to look at your values
  • Why page speed still matters
  • What's the biggest thing with WordPress site's coming up?
  • Why it's better to follow the path less trodden
Jun 4, 2019

Bing is often overlooked here in Australia, with a low market share of only 3% (according to is it really worth the effort?

In this podcast with Fabrice Canel from Bing, I discover some interesting features of Bing, and some amazing tools to help you with your whole DIY SEO approach.

Tune to hear why you need to give Bing a second look.

Tune in to learn:

  • What is Bing’s Market Share in Australia?
  • Is doing SEO for Bing the same as doing SEO for Google?
  • What role does Schema play with Bing?
  • Does Bing use Meta descriptions to rank sites?
  • Does Bing use speed as a ranking factor?
  • Does Bing care about secure sites?
  • What can Bing Webmaster tools help us with?
  • More about Bing’s SEO analyzer
  • Tips on setting up Bing Places Profile
  • What’s the best way to check rankings on Bing?
  • Where is Bing focusing resources in the next year?
  • What Fabrice recommend as your first three steps with Bing?
May 14, 2019

Crawlability is super important for your website.

Ensuring humans and those sticky little Google bots can slip through your site like a damp otter down a pipe is crucial.

We don’t want duplicate content and we don’t want oodles of pointless pages and archives being crawled.

We want slick, efficient, uber crawlable websites and today we’ll be going through how to make that dobable.

Tune in to learn:

  • What crawlability is and why it matters
  • The meaning of crawl budget
  • How often Google crawls your site
  • How you can get Google to crawl your site more
  • The key elements of crawlability
  • How to handle password protected content
  • Zombie pages and how to deal with them
  • Best tools to crawl your website
  • How to handle 404s and 301 redirects
  • Dealing with duplicate content
Apr 30, 2019

I was lucky enough to chat with one of my SEO heros Rand Fishkin in my I LOVE SEO Group on Facebook recently.

Not only was Rand my first ever guest on the podcast, he's also been a huge influence on my SEO career and a veritable font of knowledge and ideas.

I was super excited to share the stage with him at Yoastcon recently where we discussed all things Digital Marketing - and he was generous enough to offer to share his thoughts with my students and DIY SEO Learners.

It's a great episode that covers a range of topics and challenges a lot of traditional ideas about what SEO really means, and how to be successful in digital marketing in 2019. Enjoy!

Apr 16, 2019

Video has been around long enough now that people have cottoned on to it being a great tool for business. Everyday, I see more and more people getting in front of the camera to share their stories and expertise. And everyday, there’s an increase in below average videos being posted across the interwebs.

Today, I’m joined with Ben Amos to help you combat the battle of the average. Ben we’ll explore why Video strategy is the game changer and how you can use one to stand out from the masses.

Tune in to learn:

  • How push through not wanting to make videos at all?
  • How to come up with good story ideas
  • The types of content that help build awareness
  • Content that converts on video
  • What the structure is of a great video
  • Things to avoid when storytelling
  • The seven types of story
  • Easily accessible tools for creating killer videos
Mar 31, 2019

You might have heard the term influencer marketing.
You might think all it involves is hot girls in bikinis on instagram clutching your product and charging you $1000 for one insta story.

But it’s a teeny bit more complicated than this.
An enhanced form of relationships marketing Influencer marketing can help boost your brand through the power of personal recommendation, it can get your products in front of new eyeballs, build trust, and ultimately drive conversions.
It can also be a bit flat flop!

In this episode I chat with highlighly acclaimed digital marketing expert Jeff Bullas on how to get started in the somewhat scary world of Influencer marketing.

Tune in to learn:

  • What influencer marketing actually is
  • How influencer marketing works
  • How effective influencer marketing can be
  • What are the different types of influencers
  • What does an influencer actually do
  • How much does it cost
  • How to contact an influencer
  • How to know if your campaign has worked?
Mar 12, 2019

So in this second part of the Tim Soulo interview, we are moving away from talking about content marketing. You can head back to the first episode hear all Tim's amazing tips on that.

And instead we're going to talk about the Ahrefs tools, what it does, and also some kind of sticky questions which I'm wondering if Tim is going to be comfortable answering.

We have some questions for Tim himself about what it is to be a well-known figure in the SEO industry. So this is going to be a great episode. Get your ears ready.

Tune in to learn:

  • What personal skills have given Tim the edge
  • How Tim deals with online abuse
  • What does Ahrefs do that no other SEO software does
  • Why doesn’t Ahrefs have an affiliate program
  • Why Tim chose Ahrefs over any other software company
  • What’s the one thing Tim would change about Ahrefs
Mar 5, 2019

Content marketing is something we know we should all do, but it’s so overwhelming many of us don’t know where to start.

So today, I’m delighted to have Tim Soulo from Ahrefs on the podcast, he’s Marketing lead for this leading SEO software Tim and his team consistently pump out amazing shareable content that builds brand awareness and authority.

In this episode I’ll grill him with questions from you, the erstwhile listeners of the Recipe for SEO Success podcast, about content marketing, the Ahrefs tool set and his own personal experience as a leading figure in the SEO world.

Tune in to learn:

  • How often you should publish and update content
  • Are blogs a thing of the past
  • Will links become a thing of the past
  • What questions Tim asks his writers to produce great content
  • What has been Ahrefs most effective lead generator
Feb 12, 2019

In the Reality SEO series I interview REAL LIFE HUMANS who’ve worked hard to learn more about the wonderful world of SEO. They're all graduates of my Recipe for SEO course and all real business people, not SEO gurus.

Andrew Lau worked as an agency producer before deciding to take a leap into SEO copywriting. He knew that a high Google ranking was the key to keeping his phone ringing, so he dove in deep did the work and moved his website from page 100 to page 1. Right behind me! The student becomes the teacher or what?

He shares what learning SEO has meant to him and how ultimately it's helped him become a better dad.

Tune in to learn:

  • The pros and cons to working in agencies
  • The four pillars of SEO
  • What Andrew believes is the number 1 key to SEO success
  • How SEO helped Andrew become a better dad.
  • Why Andrew believes Google My Business is so essential

* Warning Andrew swears a lot!!

Feb 5, 2019

Many people think of SEO as an afterthought.

You build your website and then smear a thick layer of SEO icing over the top.
But SEO is not the icing on the cake, it’s the cake itself.

Structuring your website well is essential for both usability and findability, not only does it help your customers find the content they need, it helps Google understand your site better.

In this week’s podcast, I’m honoured to have Marieke Van De Rakt on the show to take us through how to create a defined site structure that woos humans and the Google gods.

Tune in to learn:

  • Why Site structure is so important for your website
  • How to set up a good website site structure
  • Tips for structuring your homepage
  • Tips for structuring your navigation
  • What is cornerstone content and is it still a thing?
  • How to use taxonomies effectively
  • Marieke’s tips on contextual linking
  • How often should we be adding new content to our websites
  • Marieke’s top DON’Ts when it comes to site structure
Jan 22, 2019

In the Reality SEO series I interview REAL LIFE HUMANS who’ve transformed their businesses with simple digital marketing and SEO techniques.Included in this episode are their practical doable tips and advice you can implement today.


Josie Brown is an Australian WordPress developer who wanted to feel confident about building SEO websites from the get go - not just installing Yoast and saying ‘DONE’.

She talks us through the common issues she finds, image optimisation, speed and plugin problems.

Tune in to learn:

  • Can you develop a website without understanding SEO?
  • Choosing a bad domain name
  • Common image optimisation mistakes
  • Site speed issues and how to fix them
  • Plugin problems - which ones play well together
  • How having a group of peers to talk with has changed Josie’s business
  • What WordPress developers charge
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